Thousands of displaced people have been deprived of their pensions due to suspicion of living in occupied territory

Pensions for displaced people: new rules are being introduced again

NEW RULES FOR DISPLACED PENSIONERS

There are again new rules for issuing pensions for displaced people. Now, according to Cabinet of Ministers Resolution No. 79 of March 4, the information submitted by displaced persons about their actual residence will be checked within two months. Marks will be placed on the back of the migrant’s certificate.

Migration service units will check where the migrants actually live. They can police and representatives of other government bodies.

If the data submitted by the migrant is true, then marks will be placed on the back of the migrant’s certificate. Without it, by the way, the migrant’s certificate is invalid.

If suddenly the migrant is not in the specified place, then he will be left with a notice of the need to contact the appropriate service unit within 10 days.

STRENGTHENING RULES

On November 7, the Cabinet of Ministers adopted a resolution tightening the rules for issuing pensions to refugees from the ATO zone. Now only those who actually moved to “peaceful” cities and acquired some kind of living space in them will receive money. Pensions will be accrued only to those who provide the Pension Fund with a “resettler’s certificate” with their real address of residence. The rules for receiving pensions have been tightened due to the so-called pension tourism. Pensioners from the ATO zone went to receive pensions outside the region, and then returned back to the “DPR”-“LPR” and continued to live in the occupied territories. As the governor of the Luhansk region Gennady Moskal reported, there are often cases when representatives of the “DPR”-“LPR” also go to receive pensions from Ukraine.

HOW TO GET A PENSION

The calculation of pensions for immigrants in the Pension Fund is divided into two cases.

The first is when a pension has already been assigned to a person who was registered in territories that are temporarily uncontrolled by the Ukrainian authorities.

— A person needs to come to the liberated territory, contact the department of social protection of the population and register in accordance with the resolution of the Cabinet of Ministers as a temporarily displaced person, obtain the appropriate certificate and then apply to the pension fund with a passport and a request to transfer the pension case from the occupied territory to liberated territory. When transferring a pension file, we are not talking about the fact that someone will go there, pick up an important file, and transport it. No, we have the appropriate electronic database, electronic files, which we use in such cases, and upon your application, the pension will be transferred and its payment will begin at the new place of registration in the liberated territory,” said the deputy. Chairman of the Board of the Pension Fund of Ukraine Vladislav Mashkin during an online conference for “KP in Ukraine”.

IF A PENSION HAS NOT BEEN ASSIGNED TO A DISPLACEMENT PEOPLE YET

— If we are talking about granting a pension, then the procedure is approximately the same, only the person applies to the place where he is registered as a temporarily displaced person with an application for a pension, submits a passport and work book. If the work record is lost, we use in any case the data from the personalized accounting system, which is in our centralized system, and try our best to help in finding the necessary documents and assign a pension, as in principle this happens for all citizens of our country,” said Mashkin.

STORIES OF HOW PENSIONS WERE MADE IN DIFFERENT CITIES

Kyiv: We decorate the old fashioned way

The Department of Labor and Social Protection of the Population of the Podolsk District of Kyiv is crowded. But after a short conversation, it turned out that among all of them there was not a single retired migrant. Social Security employees themselves are not afraid of their influx. Because we have not yet seen the new rules for issuing a migrant certificate.

— We heard about all the innovations only in the news. There are no official new instructions yet,” one of the management specialists told KP.

- How so? Now all the talk is that from December, retired migrants will have to apply for temporary registration in order to receive pensions.

- What do you want from us if there is no written order? Now, as before, people turn to us for a migrant certificate and for social assistance. Today we do not require any paper confirming temporary registration.

Liberated areas of Donbass: Many times more people come

Those who remained in the territories controlled by the “DPR” are gradually coming to terms with complete hopelessness. And those who moved to peaceful cities attack social security authorities. In the largest peaceful cities of the region - Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Mariupol, the queues in the bureaucratic corridors number in the hundreds of people wishing to receive a migrant certificate.

“We already have a flow of those who change their place of residence because of the war, but now there are many more of them,” complain employees of the social protection fund in Mariupol. — Of course, there are not only pensioners in the queue, but now there are more of them than anyone else. They are afraid that they will not make it on time.

Fund workers also complain about the large number and pressure of resettlers. Their workday is now several hours longer than usual. They say: here, in the cities closest to the ATO, those who fled the war will soon be no less numerous than local residents. And in light of recent events, even those who had not previously thought of registering, but only wanted to sit out the war, rushed to apply for resettlement certificates. Already, within the Donetsk region, almost 80 thousand displaced people have been registered with the State Emergency Service.

Zaporozhye: There are not enough employees to check places of residence

There are also those in line for the desired certificate who are just planning to move to Zaporozhye. Some retirees even plan to get a job because they are unable to pay for rented housing in a foreign city.

“I haven’t received my minimum pension for four months now.” But we paid taxes, and now we are forced to stand with our hands outstretched,” says Raisa Fomicheva from Donetsk. “In the morning I received a certificate from the regional resettlement headquarters, they found me a room in a hostel, now I have to move. And now the Social Security Administration must issue the paper, and only after that I will go to the Pension Fund.

“Friends who have already received a document from the social security department say that they are being checked to see if they really live at the specified address,” said Donetsk resident Marina, who has been living in Zaporozhye for several months.

“Now there are queues at our departments, but we are coping with the flow of displaced people who came to receive a certificate,” the regional department of social protection told Komsomolskaya Pravda. — The main problem is that we do not have enough employees who should check the reality of the refugee’s temporary residence.

Kharkov: Old people haven’t been told about innovations yet

The information that people from Donbass who are already receiving pensions in the Kharkov region, and there are thousands of such people, will have to submit certificates of resettlement to the Pension Fund by December 1, has not even reached the elderly.

— I haven’t heard about any innovations. The Pension Fund didn’t ask me for new documents,” shrugs Tamara Panteleevna, who moved to Kharkov from Makeyevka in the summer. — In Kharkov, I live with my sister; her address is indicated in the documents by which I was registered as a refugee.

The State Administration of the Pension Fund of the Kharkov Region did not want to officially comment on the situation. They couldn’t even answer a simple question: should we submit certificates or not? They sent us to read the laws. We called the PF hotline to clarify this point.

- Yes indeed. These are not rumors. The pensioner must provide a certificate of registration. These certificates are issued by social security authorities. The certificate indicates the address of the person’s actual residence, they explained to us on the PF hotline.

The question of how displaced pensioners will know that they need to receive such certificates remains open.

Lviv: Certificates are not required yet

The regional Pension Fund no longer issues pensions to displaced people without a certificate from the social security department, but they ask them not to panic.

“We know about the innovation and we don’t issue pensions without a certificate from the social security department,” says Ruslana Ivankova, deputy head of the State Administration of the Pension Fund of Ukraine in the Lviv region. - Rules are rules. But there is still time until December 1, so there is no rush yet.

There are queues only at regional social protection departments.

“I heard that you need to bring a certificate of temporary registration,” says Valentin Eduardovich from Lugansk. “I did it half-heartedly, okay, I have relatives in Lvov, so they agreed to register me.” But it turns out that this registration is not very necessary.

The social protection department said that migrants are issued documents based on their passport and identification code, and are advised not to bother with registration. And if they do, then clearly indicate from what date to what date they plan to live in Lviv.

Peculiarities of pension formation for migrants from the ATO zone

The abbreviation ATO means anti-terrorist operation. The essence of the ATO is the implementation of measures to stop terrorism. This term originated on the territory of Ukraine.

To apply for a pension for citizens from the relevant zone, you need to do the following:

1. Contact the social security authority to obtain a certificate to assign a new status. Certificates are issued from March 18, 2015. In addition to the social structure, certificates can be issued by officials who are involved in the placement of migrants; housing and communal services workers at the new address; authorized persons of township or village councils.
2. Provide a copy and original of your passport, pension certificate, identification code (if available). In case of loss of a passport, a migrant may be issued a temporary certificate until the basic document is restored.
3. Fill out an application where you should register a bank account where pension contributions will be accrued in the future. The form must include the following information:
   Full name of the applicant;
4. citizenship;
5. Place of Birth;
6. gender;
7. basic information about the family;
8. residential address;
9. Date of Birth;
10. reasons for moving;
11. information about real estate located in a safe area;
12. information about needs.
13. Officially register at the new address.
14. Register with the PFU (Pension Fund of Ukraine). Pension contributions are assigned from the next month after the above actions are completed.

Last news

Since the beginning of March 2021, migration service employees have been carrying out additional checks of the place of residence of migrants. If the citizen actually lives at the specified address, then a corresponding mark is placed on the back of the certificate. If the migrant does not live at the specified address, then within 10 days he must contact the migration service.

Payments will only be received by those citizens who actually moved to a peaceful settlement. To confirm this information, it is necessary to submit a certificate to the PFU, which will indicate the new real address of the migrant.

Pension for temporary migrants

In accordance with Resolution of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine No. 595 dated November 7, 2014, temporary migrants have the right to receive a pension subject to the following procedure:

1. Traveling outside the ATO zone.
2. Registration with the migration service.
3. Registration with the social service or the labor department.
4. Based on the results of the actions performed, the citizen is issued an appropriate certificate. To obtain this document, the pensioner must independently (or through a representative) contact the social security authorities.

Contacting the PFU with an application and basic documentation

The application form should include information such as:

• Applicant's full name, citizenship, gender, date and place of birth;
• basic family information;
• actual address;
• contact phone number;
• identification number (if available);
• reasons for moving;
• data on real estate located in a safe zone;
• information from work;
• indication of needs (if any).

As for basic documents, you need to take your passport and pension certificate with you. Based on the results of the actions performed, PFU employees are required to assign a pension within the month following the month of termination of payments at the previous address.

Recommendations for eliminating debt on pensions for immigrants

How to get a pension for people who are unable to cross the demarcation line on their own

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For people with disabilities located in the ATO zone, the legislation does not provide preferences for receiving and restoring pension payments. The only possible way to solve this problem is to register as a migrant.

If possible, relatives transport their parents across the demarcation line to obtain pensions. If there are no relatives, a lawyer can file a lawsuit on behalf of the disabled person. If the plaintiff wins the case, he still needs to somehow enter the lands controlled by the Kyiv authorities in order to issue a power of attorney for the person who will receive his pension. Documents drawn up on temporarily occupied lands are considered invalid.

The result is casuistry - a person has a court decision in his favor, which is virtually impossible to fulfill.

What to do if your pension is not paid

For many IDPs in the age group over 60, pensions are only one source of livelihood. Finding additional income in adulthood, especially in an unfamiliar area, is quite difficult. Therefore, paying off pension arrears for displaced people is a priority task for the authorities.

To solve the problem, the first steps must be taken by the displaced pensioner or his legal representative. To do this, you need to find out the reason for freezing social payments in the PFU authority at your place of permanent residence.

The request must be sent by post with a declared value and return receipt, or submitted in person to the office of the government agency, not forgetting to put a stamp on the registration of incoming correspondence on the copy of the request.

What to do if payments to the Pension Fund authority have not started?

In this case, prepare documents to file a claim in court. To do this, it is best to seek legal advice. A lawyer will help you collect the necessary set of documents and prepare a legally competent statement of claim. Today there are many law firms that provide free legal assistance to former residents of Donbass.

In addition to the lawsuit, record a violation of rights by making free calls, both from your home phone and from mobile operator numbers, to the Government and Pension Fund Hotlines

Important: the telephone appeal should be voiced as a complaint about illegal actions on the part of the territorial body of the PFU, and not a demand for additional clarification. The complaint will be registered and forwarded to the appropriate authorities for consideration.

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Which migrants can receive a pension in Russia?

Migrants with permanent residence or who have received Russian citizenship have the right to an old-age insurance pension in Russia. To do this they must have:

1. Insurance experience of at least 7 years.
2. Individual coefficient is not lower than 9.
3. Age established by Russian legislation. Currently it is 55 years for women and 60 years for men.

Women with five or more children, as well as those who worked in hazardous industries, the list of which is approved by the Government of the country, can apply for a reduction in the retirement age.

Pension payments in the Russian Federation are made only to those migrants who permanently reside on the territory of the state.

In cases where pension payments are made on the basis of permanent residence, their validity period ends with the date of the foreign citizen’s stay in Russia.

How can a migrant apply for a pension in Russia?

The very first step when applying for a Russian pension is collecting the necessary documents. Their list is approved by a special order, which is issued by the Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation.

Mandatory documents for a migrant are:

• passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation or residence permit indicating the place of registration
• application of the established form
• insurance certificate of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation
• issuing a personal account in the OPS system.

A complete list of documents can be found on the website of government services of the Russian Federation. Documents are submitted to the territorial PF or MFC at the place of registration or actual place of residence.

You can submit documents in person, through authorized representatives or by mail. The review period established by law is 10 days. The accrual date is the day the application is submitted. You cannot submit documents earlier than one month before retirement age.